Saints, Sufis and Yogis

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Saints, Sufis, and Yogis: a Biographical Dictionary of Realised Souls

This book contains 160 entries for Those Who Went Before.

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The Real Becoming

When you start surrendering and the faith comes in, then your awareness rises higher than this, and these small, small, little, little things which have become subtler, they start departing from you. This is the third state where your three gunas you can see, but they do not affect you.

So in the first state you have desire. In the second state, which is a very big thing, you see the desire being fulfilled, but all these subtle things are mixed up with you. In the third state you see them, third stage, but they do not affect you. This is the third stage when one has to see that they do not affect you. You do see catching, but then you do not call catching, you say recording. You think you are an instrument, you are just recording. The effect of that becomes very small, very small. You become so powerful within that the effect of this catching is very little, you just record this effect. This is the third state of your ascent. Now this, at this third state. To rise up to this third state, the only way is complete faith. Faith is - first of all you have to learn certain things about faith. One of them is the protocol, but with faith, if you learn protocol then you will not feel bad about it. But if you're forced onto it, you'll feel bad. You see, the mixture state is still on. ...

So the third awareness comes in where you start seeing all these, recording it. This is the third state. Then the fourth state comes in. In the fourth state - is called as the Turya Dasha, is the fourth state. Turya is the fourth state. In the fourth state you dominate these three gunas, you control all the elements. At this stage, you just say and it works. You have seen yesterday what happened with me. It just works, you become master of these three gunas. Like I used to describe that first you are sitting in the car and somebody's driving you. He uses your left and right side, or you can say, the brake and accelerator, and the car is driven. Then he starts teaching you how to drive. Then you start learning by using your left and right, accelerator and your brake. Then the third stage comes in where you become a driver, but still you are worried about the master who is sitting behind, that still you are doing a mistake, you are doing wrong. But then the fourth stage comes, you become the master. You make others drive. Order here, anyone, order the Sun, order the Moon, order. Order means just tell them, I mean not question of any domination is there. Just desire. Just say it, it works out.

Now this fourth stage is called as Turya Dasha. Then comes the fifth stage in which - I don't want to give you names because you’ll stick on to those. They are not so clear cut. They mingle from each other you see, and they are mixtures. But in Turya state when you mature properly, then you jump into the fifth state, in which you do not even, you do Sankalpa. You do not even determine or say anything. You just, anything slips out of your mouth, may not even slip out - it works. Is a state. There you handle the whole situation, sitting down here. ...

Sitting down here, you know each and every thing. Then not only you have mastered it, but in that you can enter into it. Now, for example, I’ll tell you what. I can enter into your subconscious, into your collective subconscious, into your supraconscious, into all the areas you see, I can if I want to. This is when you have mastered it completely, then you enter into it. When you are the master, then you enter into it. When you're master of this house, you can enter into any place.

Then comes the seventh state and that is the state where you, just you are. Your being there is sufficient. Just being there. Nothing exists, but you - for yourself. Now all these seven states you can reach, because I stand beyond them and I have come down to the first state. I'm trying to pull you out. If you do not drag me down, I can pull you up very fast. So only request is don't drag me down.

That's how the becoming is going to be. Now this is the basics, the scaffold … you can call the basic structure. Now you are filling all the beautiful things in between - how to do it. And all the things can nicely, again, arranged and re-decorated and can be done properly. But this is the basic structure of becoming.

H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmal Devi, extracts from the Talk, 'The Real Becoming', Old Arlesford Seminar, UK, 1980 (1980-0518)

* there is no mention in the transcript of a sixth state.

Sunset

Question from yogi: Can you tell us a bit about sunset; are we not to look at the sunset?

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi:
Sunset is not very good, sunset is not good. That’s the time the sun is taking away all the energies from this earth. So it’s not such a good time to see. It depends on, for example, ego-oriented people if they see sun would be better off. Little bit of their ego might go down.
But people who have got a left-side problem should see the sun rise, will be good. It’s only the other way round. You see now? Good question.

(1980-0424)

Mantra to Shri Ganesha

Say you have to meditate on Mooladhara, now you pay attention towards Mooladhara and take the name of Shri Ganesh. Say the mantra. You know there are four petals; so that mantra every time should be said four times. Four into four you can say. Pay attention there.

H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, London, 1980 (1980-0424)

The limitations of Acupuncture

Acupuncture actually is the tapping of the power which is already within us. Now for example, you have a certain power in your stomach. Now this power is continuously supplied to your other organs in the stomach. It is used for that. Now through the sympathetic nervous system, the parasympathetic stores it and the sympathetic uses it. Now supposing there is a disease in the stomach. So now the energy in that vital energy, in that particular center, is sort of exhausted or is much less. So what do they do? How to get well that person? They take from another center, divert it, and put it there and that’s how they try to cure that. But by that they create an imbalance because you have a limited area. You have a limited, absolutely limited, energy. Supposing you have a limited petrol and another car you find whose petrol is all finished. Now if you put the petrol into another car maybe that car will go half way and you will also go half way finished. You understand my point? So both of them reduce your longevity. So it is the extraction of the energy which is within us, which is limited.

Sahaja Yoga is a very different thing. In Sahaja yoga your Kundalini rises and connects you with the all-pervading power. So all the time you are getting power, the vital power within you flowing. And there is dearth of that power. It’s all the time flowing, the grace. But here when you tap one energy to another there’s no proper understanding how much to give, how much to balance. And there is no need at all. Once you are a realized soul supposing somebody has a stomach trouble you have to just put your hand on the stomach, finished. That’s the way you can cure. You can cure cancer, you can cure anything. Because you become the source of that energy and your energy is not limited, you are getting energy from the all-pervading power. You are connected with it so what ever you are doing, it’s just flowing like that and you just become a witness of that power which is flowing.

H.H.Shri Mataji Nirnala Devi, extract from Talk on Sympathetic and Parasympathetic, London, 1980 (1980-0424)

Transformation through Kundalini awakening

Now people might say Marxism, this ism, that ism. Tukarama has said ava ghaachi samsaara sukha cha kari. He said it. Same - Marx says the same. He says that the whole world should be so... Read more… such a happy place, such a happy place that there should be no state. How? Nobody asked him how. He talks of evolution. How? How the evolution is going to take place? Ask him. Ask all these communists. They are not becoming better people. Are they? Who is becoming better? Who is getting transformed by that Isms? None of them. Somebody is a disciple of this gentleman. Somebody is a disciple of that gentleman. Somebody is following this kind of a political theory. Another following that kind of a theory. It’s a theory.

In Marathi as they say, bhola cha tsa baata bhola chi tsa kari... "Read more”. Whatever theories you have, you have written down on your heads. Are you going to get transformation with that? There has to, something, happen within you. If you have to get to that point what Marx has said, what Tukarama has said. This parivarthan, this change, this transformation has to take place and that’s only possible through the Kundalini awakening. ...

Kundalini is the shuddha iccha, is the real icchaa, is the one that is going to give you that what you are born for, is going to give you. After that you do not want anything else. It’s not like the economics that you want today this, tomorrow that and it is never satiable in general. It gets completely… the thing that you want is the entire source of satisfaction. But is the movement is upward; the Kundalini doesn’t go downward towards the gravity, towards the matter. It comes up. It moves upward and pierces through this fontanelle bone area and you get your self-realization. This is what you should ask from any guru. All the rest of it is useless.

H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, extracts from Public Program, Mumbai (1986-0101)