Advice given by H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
Yogi: The essence of this question I think is, Shri Mother, at the separation at the time of death, at the separation of the spirit and the body, what happens? What happens to the spirit?
Shri Mataji: Again, you all seem to be quite infatuated by death I think.
You see when you are a realized soul, then what happens you see that it is just another dress that you have to change. You never worry about death. Never, and those who have written about death, Kabir, has written beautifully. He says that, when my beloved left me, means my life, I didn’t cry, I didn’t say anything, I didn’t fuss. I just asked my friend, I was nicely covered myself with a little sheet and I was lying down and just seeing my beloved left me. He said that all the doors were closed, but, I don’t know, some window was opened, must be the Sahastrara was opened, because he was a realized soul, so the life went through that.
So you see the thing is this problem is always haunt you when you are not a realized soul. Be so much worried about death, but after that you will know that death is just a change of life; it’s just a change of life. Then whenever you want to take your birth you can take if you are a realized soul, but if you are not, I have told you, you may possess someone, or you may hang in the limbo, I don’t know whenever. Some people take birth just after thirteen fourteen days, again into another nonsensical place.
Whatever you’ll earn now will show at the time of your death but if you are not earn any good deeds you call it, punyas, then it will show at the time of your death whether you go to hell or to heaven. It is your choice, is your freedom. What do you what? You want to go to hell or to heaven is your own choice and your own discretion. That’s very important.
(1992-0226: Public Program, Christchurch, New Zealand)
Interviewer: Mother, what is the true nature of death? Is it possible that you can choose not to die? What’s the purpose of death?
Shri Mataji: See, death is just like changing your clothes. So sometimes when you use too much of your clothes you get tired. You want to change it. Like that death is. Nobody dies, there’s nothing that dies except that the part that is the Mother Earth and the part that is the water falls off, and you remain as you are. But if you are a realized soul, then you have a choice. If you want to be born again, you would like to be born. If you don’t want to be born, you will not be born. But after Realization, it becomes your choice. If you want to die, you can die. If you don’t want to die, you need not die. But you want because you think that “Let us die and come back as new people again to help Mother.”
(1983-1001: KAZU Radio Interview with Barbara Schuler, Santa Cruz, California, USA)
Death does not exist in the divine language. Those who are dead can be reborn. But death sometimes could be used for punishing people, for destroying them, for taking them away from the scene. That’s what the Mother Earth does sometimes. Her anger can be so great that pin-pointedly She can destroy thousands and thousands of miles of earth, destroying many people who have been extremely irreligious and uncollective.
(1986-0803: Shri Bhoomi Devi Puja, Shudy Camps, UK)
Q (Lady): Why do we human beings have fear of death?
Shri Mataji: Because you are in ignorance. Suddenly, the lights go off, you will be frightened, you are ignorant. There’s nothing like death. It’s just transformation from one life to another. After this you are not afraid of anything. Nothing. And you are all the time protected. You can feel it. You are protected. Actually you feel it. It is absolutely miraculous the way things happen and people have written to me – how they were protected, how they were saved, they could not believe it, because all the angels are with you. But, if I tell you this, you won’t believe in these modern things of science, but now many things are also discovered in science like quantum theory. You can’t explain it.
(1993-1004: Public Program, United Nations Meeting, New York)
Q: What do you believe happens after death?
Shri Mataji: You see, after death you would never die. Actually only there are five elements you are made of, out of which the earth element really falls off and the other four elements remain. And the water oozes out a little, little like that, and you become a small entity, which is the Soul. The Soul has got the Kundalini on top of the head and the Spirit on top of the head and all the four elements are there intact.
(1981-0331: Australian Radio Broadcast 1, Sydney, Australia)
The collective subconscious receives a normal personality who has just accepted death as a transition. Actually, when we die we really do not die, only part of us, the earth element drops down. And part of the water element also. But the rest of the elements that form this body, the different koshas, like the Kundalina (?) that goes out and the Atma that rises, all that put together as soul you can call it, all that goes into the collective subconscious and starts going smaller and smaller. Into the area of that collective subconscious, where it is to be placed for getting smaller and smaller.
(1977-0223: Normal Human Awareness)
Question: She would like to know if death is a result of our errors or a law of nature.
Shri Mataji: No, no, it is - anything that is born has to die. We just change our dress as we do every day. That’s how we change this body.
(1990-1017: Press Conference, Bucharest, Romania)
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